End Campus Sex Crime Courts Now

OK, whose brilliant idea was it to take the prosecution of sexual assault cases out of the hands of specially trained judges, prosecutors, and defense attorneys, and put it into the hands of one of the most un-qualified groups for the job—the typically inbred, elitist, mostly left-wing, non-lawyerly cadre of college professors and administrators?

Sadly, the genius that thought up that destructive plan was our eminent national legal scholar and Constitutional expert, Barack Obama. He heard and believed the false statistic that the rape rate on US campuses is three times as high as anywhere outside of university campuses, one in five women on campus are claimed to be raped … and if you believe that statistic, you definitely need to become more skeptical. Plain old common sense will tell you that here are plenty of places in the US with higher rape rates than our universities, or nobody would ever send their daughters there.

Anyway, because he bought into the fake “one in five” claim, Obama made the situation much worse. He ordered  US colleges and universities to get into the “justice” business, with “justice” definitely in quotes.

Well, it wasn’t really an order, it was actually just a “suggestion” made under the claimed aegis of Title IX … but when Big Daddy US Government Warbucks who funds part of your college “suggests” something, it is an order.

(In passing, let me say that this kind of heavy hand from Washington is one of the reasons Trump was elected.)

As a result of this ham-fisted liberal lunacy, every institute of higher education in the US, from podunk city colleges to prestigious Ivy League universities, has been forced to institute a kangaroo court to “try” young men for crimes both real and imagined. Every one of these individual kangaroo courts have different laws, regulations, and statues. Often the prosecutor of the man and the defense attorney for the woman are the same person. Often there is a fiduciary or authority relationship (employer, boss, subordinate, etc) between judge, prosecutor, and defense. Often the young man is not allowed to confront his accuser. Imagine the worst kind of “Star Chamber” court … it’s worse than that.

As a result we have an entire parallel “justice” system of a thousand different “courts”, operating under totally different rules, in parallel but rarely intersecting with the professionals who actually do dispense justice.campus-justice-i

How dumb is that? Could we design a more destructive system? Laura Berman describes a typical tragedy, one of hundreds and counting:

The facts are largely undisputed: Two college students on summer break – he’s a sophomore; she, a freshman – make a date. It’s Memorial Day weekend, 2014, and their intentions are explicit. They meet and have sex – consensual, enthusiastic – when a passerby interrupts them.

A few hours later, still together, the male student attempts to resume the sexual encounter. He reaches under her shirt to touch her breast. He stops immediately when she asks him to. They agree about these facts.

Yet this “one-time, non-consensual touching,” as university documents summarize it, is the crux of a startling Michigan State University sexual misconduct case. It has generated a thick stack of legal documents, months of MSU administrator time, and tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills since the female student, known here as Melanie, formally complained on Sept. 25, 2015 – almost 16 months after the incident.

More importantly, though, the case – which has traveled through an internal appeals process, exhausting the now-22-year-old man’s hope for reversal of sanctions at the university level – challenges what some might see as common-sense assumptions about sex and dating behavior. MSU’s findings draw sharply etched lines into the blurry world of dating intimacy and reveal the power of university administrators to mark a student as a sexual offender – for touching a lover’s breast after sex, miles from campus, without any accusations of violence, intimidation or stalking behavior.

Deborah Gordon, the Bloomfield Hills lawyer representing the man, says she intends to file a federal lawsuit against the university. She calls the case “beyond ridiculous.”

Has anyone ever heard of anything good coming out of one of these dangerous kangaroo courts? Every time I hear about them, some poor guy is getting shafted. And often, as in this case, it is “beyond ridiculous”.

Now, this one should be simple to fix. All Trump needs to do is to withdraw Obama’s sick order, the one that has already blighted the lives of far too many young men. Look, this issue is bozo simple. We all already know what a college or university administrator should do if they hear about a sexual crime that was committed on campus.

CALL THE FREAKIN’ POLICE IMMEDIATELY, DUH!

How hard can it be? Why is this even a question? Over the last 250 years we’ve developed an excellent, albeit somewhat clumsy, judicial system staffed by highly trained professionals whose job is to HANDLE SEXUAL CRIMES! Why on earth would we take that awesome responsibility out of their hands and give it to some bunch of amateurs?

And in particular, why give it to this particular group of amateurs? People’s sons are being tried, judged and sentenced, perhaps tagged for a lifetime as sexual predators, by a combined prosecutor/judge/jury panel often composed of something like a caponized guy who studies the plot arc of heroes in 17th century Celtic poetry, a frustrated novelist with only one name, a Women’s Studies professor whose analyses mostly complain about the lack of positive feminine symbology and role models in James Joyce, and a professionally happy Dance Studies instructor with lots of young female students that he is said to be very close to …

Look, I’m not blaming them, but dear heavens, BRING BACK THE PROFESSIONALS. The university folk had to do it, because our legal scholar and thankfully Ex-President dumped it on them and they are doing their best … but their best is nowhere near good enough.

We need to get these kangaroo courts off campus, soon, and completely. It’s simple.

We don’t expect the High Court to provide secondary education … and we should not expect Universities to provide justice.

End campus sex crime courts now …

Best wishes for each of you, another inch and a half of rain, life is good …

w.

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      • I know that he has swapped out the comments plugins a few times (there’s been some breakage a couple times as he’s tried things), so I think the comment subscription capability is independent from the theme. You may want to e-mail him (IIRC there is an e-mail on the page) and ask him what he’s tried.

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  1. Yes! Please, parents… teach your children (male or female or … ) that if they are ever sexually assaulted go to the police of the town or city that the university is located in, NOT the campus police. Or, go straight to an emergency room at a local hospital, NOT the campus health center. The hospital will contact the police.

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  2. Sex courts adjudicated by self-centered, horribly liberal, professors? Talk about a Kangaroo Court. Institutions filled with almost 100% registered liberal instructors and administrators whose students dare not brook the flaming, non-ending anti-right invectives given the right to have any semblance of a court by who? The government? By Obama? A failure who couldn’t get anything in order other than setting back the horrible racism in this country a couple decades?

    In my alma mater, Bowdoin College, one of the finest small colleges in the country except for its blatant liberalism, recently a fearful student said he didn’t dare argue with or present an opposing point to the liberal dictates of professors as he wanted to go to grad school after Bowdoin. It was clear that the very scare of the overriding fear of being a right winger would doom him, if he voiced an opinion that the advertised “diversity” of the College found unacceptable.

    Brother. When I was at Bowdoin, it was all men. In all men’s colleges in the 1960s everyone lived and died with the fantasies of making it with a woman – they were “girls” then, unfortunately. Yet, there was, in my memory, not one case of rape or any of that stuff that we see daily today. If it was, it was so hidden as it was too sordid to not only think about doing, but reporting.

    Sexual harassment? Rape? Turn it over to the police, immediately.

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  3. The case gets even weirder:

    More than two years after the incident, even Melanie’s gender has changed. When 16 months later she reported what happened on the train tracks, Melanie had been taking male hormones for 12 weeks; she had legally changed her name, adopting a male identity. Her voice dropped; she shaved her facial hair. The woman referred to in this account as Melanie now hopes to surgically alter her gender in the future, and lives and dresses as a man.

    Sounds like temporary insanity to me.

    The burning question of the day is whether Melanie-by-whatever-new-name took part in the Woman’s marches against Trump. I gather some trans and non-binary gender persons of outrage thought this past weekend’s activites were just for white cis-women (you really can’t make this stuff up).

    As I consider recent news from what we persist in calling institutions of “higher” education, Matt Briggs prescription becomes increasingly persuasive.

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  4. As with everything about sex, and in particular sex amongst college age students: “it’s complicated.” Complicated because the discourse is usually: “he said, she said.” Women’s word on this issue is further complicated by impairment; ie being drunk, or being in isolated places where force can triump. Social and parental questions: “How could you let yourself….” Separation from friends/others who may protect you in your particular circumstance. The other issue, is public exposure. Being observed by someone else changes the “shame” issue from self-pity, self-recognition of some one’s faulty, to, “I was raped.” I did not consent!” Or worse, in the heat of sex: “I changed my mind.” Wow. “I thought I wanted to go in this direction, but…”

    I agree, in the light of the next day and personal recriminations, the above issues and more come into play regarding perceptions and boundaries of consensual and force sexual activity amongst college age people. They want, and then they don’t want.

    Then there is the issue of impairment by sleight of hand: drugs, intimidation, social pressure, expectations, and the most important factor: self-esteem or lack there of. How does a court distinguish from an attack of a predator from a cry of: “I made a mistake.”

    I agree. This issue is much more complex than a student court with college administrative oversight is up to. Failure would be the norm.

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  5. Sounds like a job for Attorney General-nominee Sessions … once the Senate gets their act together and confirms him … and he can put a stop to the madness. This liberal lynch mob needs to be ended.

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    • I’d have to look it up, but bizarrely I believe it came by way of the Department of Education as a “Guidance Letter” regarding Title IX enforcement. As such, I would think it could be easily repealed by Betsy DeVos once she is confirmed.

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      • Perhaps a joint DOJ/DOE action could be taken to untangle the mess and leave educators to educating and let the justice system handle justice … and leave the campus police to patrol for parking violations. Heck, it’ll probably take both agencies working in concert to untangle the obscene mess Obama created.

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  6. I’ve thought there should be a executive order requiring all US colleges that receive federal funds to immediately advertise the rate of sexual assault on their respective colleges. . .and require them to prominently display that information in the college catalogs and on the home pages of their websites.

    It wouldn’t have to be anything fancy . . . .sort of a statement like “In the school year 2015-2016 Gigantic State University is proud to announce that there were 1437 complaints about sexual assault filed by 335 women and 26 men against 786 men who attend Gigantic State. Of these 786 men, 756 were investigated and found guilty of the accusations lodged against them and expelled from school. Thirty of the men, who were also football players, were found innocent of any accusations.

    In addition, three of those 756 convicted men were investigated by the College Town Police Department, although no charges were filed.”

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  7. Colleges can’t seem to make up their liberal minds. When I was in school in the 60’s we had “in loco parentis”. Girls had curfews and female dorms were mostly off limits to male students for example. Now anything goes it seems except for non-concesnual sex as defined by the woman “ex post facto” or even by the college administration. It makes about as much sense as the staff at a bar trying someone for non-consensual sex. When did colleges become part of the judicial system?

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  8. America should segregate colleges. To avoid issues do so by city, say Chicago for men and some other city of women etc. Then at least the money spent on higher education will not be frittered away on claims of sexual misconduct. It ought to be noted that many young men now avoid women anyway, in growing numbers, this is entirely rational given the risks associated with false accusations which will and do ruin lives.

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  9. There should be a strict statute of limitations for how long a victim can wait before reporting an assault to the authorities. Perhaps I’m wrong, but it appears to me that most real victims come forward almost immediately. Many of the fake victims in the media felt jilted or rejected by a consensual lover, then ruminated on those feelings for years before telling a modified story to the cops.

    Is there any good reason why there shouldn’t be a statute of, say, one year (or less) to come forward? Any victim who comes forward after that time must prove cause for the delay, e.g. she was in a coma. Fear of coming forward doesn’t count. If they truly are victims, swift reporting can only help the justice system sort out the truth in the inevitable he said / she said trial.

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  10. Well one problem is that the professionals typically suck at it, failure to even record a complaint, failure to secure evidence, failure to process evidence, failure to secure the chain of evidence, failure to follow up complaints, failure to competently and professionally support victims, failure to competently investigate, failure to competently supervise investigations… etc ad nauseum… There’s a reason why many assaulted women don’t go to the police, or only report late after receiving support. Most women are rightly less trusting of the police than a Staten Island loosie seller.

    Another is that on many campuses the body with jurisdiction is in fact the university funded campus police department.Just when you thought that conflict of interest couldn’t get worse…

    Thirdly the support service that ought to be persuading the victim to report, is often a university employee or funded by the same……

    So yes trying sex offences in a campus disciplinary hearing or honour courts is a fornicating stupid idea, certain to end up pleasing neither the accused, the assaulted or any of the involved interest groups. But no mandatory reporting to LEO’s is most likely going to be a Mongolian cluster shag .

    Victim support services and campus policing need to be taken out of the hands of the universities and placed under independent management. Independent and indeed fierce scrutiny of the management will be required until adequate professional standards become habitual. More money will be required to ensure that evidence is collected, preserved, forensically examined and collated. Until then the situation will continue to fail all parties involved

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    • michaelozanne January 24, 2017 at 3:23 pm

      Well one problem is that the professionals typically suck at it …

      I will say that the police SOMETIMES suck at the treatment of sexual crimes. However, this is 2017 and the attitudes in many, perhaps most departments have changed markedly for the better over the last decade.

      So I strongly object to your characterization that “Most women are rightly less trusting of the police than a Staten Island loosie seller.” That’s a pile of bitter anti-police bullshit and a wild exaggeration.

      For example, in just about every police force, if there is one woman on the force (and there usually is one), guess who gets to talk to the rape victims? And rightly so.

      This means that you are making a heap of unsubstantiated and very nasty accusations against a host of mostly good and caring women and men but mostly women who are asked to do a most difficult job.

      I have a daughter who graduated from college three years ago. This is more than theoretical for me. You are maligning good people, which makes you malignant.

      Tell you what. Go down to your local cop shop. Ask to talk to whoever handles rape crimes. You tell me if they are the heartless, incompetent, cruel, mindless ogres that you are accusing them of “typically” being.

      Not amused …

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  11. The Metropolitan Police had an alleged world leader specialist unit in investigating sexual assaults….

    http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Documents/investigation_commissioner_reports/Southwark_Sapphire_Units_local_practices_for_the_reporting_and_investigation_of_sexual_offences_july2008_sept2009.PDF

    It isn’t/wasn’t an isolated case…

    “There are still public
    authorities where the staff have dismissive attitudes, police forces
    where the investigations are badly done, prosecutors who do not see
    the point of building a difficult case, and areas where the help and
    support for victims are sparse” Stern Review 2010

    Nor has it stopped…

    http://londoninvestigates.uk/archives/471

    “In 2013, strong evidence emerged that British police had been deliberately
    manipulating crime figures in order to meet performance targets, and
    official investigations into these practices followed.229 These manipulations
    have included downgrading reported crimes (e.g. downgrading a burglary to
    “criminal damage”),230 and not recording reported crimes at all by labeling
    them as “no crime” or as “crime-related incidents” (“CRIs”) when these
    categories are inappropriate.231 After an investigation, authorities determined
    that police-recorded crime data was inaccurate.232 The UK Statistics
    Authority therefore stripped this data of its National Statistics
    designation.233
    The police treatment of sex crimes has been particularly affected by
    these poor practices. Police fail to record about twenty percent of all crime
    reported to them, but twenty-six percent of reported sex offenses go unrecorded.234
    Moreover, sexual offenses are frequently “no-crimed” or recorded
    as “crime-related incidents” when these latter designations are improper.235
    A police inspector’s report gave numerous examples of reports of rape that
    were “no-crimed” by the police when they should have been reported as
    rapes.236 Retired Metropolitan Police Detective Chief Superintendent and
    Force Crime Registrar Peter Barron stated that officers use the “no-crime”
    and “CRI” designations with rape cases in order to help them manage their
    workloads:” Prosecuting Rape Victims While Rapists Run Free:The Consequences of Police Failure to Investigate
    Sex Crimes in Britain and the United States Lisa Avalos University of Arkansas School of Law

    “One document obtained by the Bureau, titled An Overview of Sexual Violence, was produced by the Met’s ‘evidence and performance unit’ in 2013.

    It shows how various factors influence the chances of police dropping rape cases.

    “These women face almost unsurmountable obstacles to justice. Their rape is highly unlikely to carry a sanction, and in that sense, it is decriminalised.
    Professor Betsy Stanko, Metropolitan Police Service”
    Around 13% of rape cases were dropped because officers initially recorded a rape but then decided no crime had occurred. These cases were recorded as a ‘no-crimes’.

    Shockingly, cases were more likely to be classified as ‘no-crimes’ and dropped if victims did not understand the concept of consent than if there was evidence casting doubt over whether the offence took place at all.

    Where police accepted a crime had occurred, cases where the victim lacked understanding of consent were less likely to be referred to prosecutors for charging decisions than cases where this was not a factor.

    The document notes that a large proportion of cases dropped out because victims had withdrawn from the process – 36% of complainants withdrew.

    It asks: ‘Have victims been given advice to withdraw?’

    The data in the document was drawn from an analysis of 687 rape allegations made to the Metropolitan police during two months in 2012.

    Professor Stanko’s team has been collecting data on allegations made during April and May each year for more than eight years.” https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2014/02/28/revealed-why-the-police-are-failing-most-rape-victims/

    Political correctness is also a problem

    http://www.gmp.police.uk/content/Op%20Span%20Redacted%20Final.pdf

    There are also ongoing investigations into systematic failures in the Essex, Thames Valley and South Yorkshire forces.

    “For example, in just about every police force, if there is one woman on the force (and there usually is one), guess who gets to talk to the rape victims? And rightly so.”

    Because being female automatically makes them good at it??

    https://www.ipcc.gov.uk/news/former-essex-police-officer-sentenced-misconduct-public-office-following-ipcc-investigation

    It’s been bad enough in the USA that congress had to hold a hearing..
    https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-111shrg64687/html/CHRG-111shrg64687.htm

    “Tell you what. Go down to your local cop shop. Ask to talk to whoever handles rape crimes. You tell me if they are the heartless, incompetent, cruel, mindless ogres that you are accusing them of “typically” being.”

    Well they closed the local cop shop and replaced it with a “victim management centre” better to mollify victims than catch crims apparently. Our county force was one of those censured for systematic failings in this area, so someone already did that for me.

    ” That’s a pile of bitter anti-police bullshit and a wild exaggeration.”
    And you’ve never added rhetorical hyperbole to anything you’ve written?

    In the end forcing victims to report to LEO’s won’t solve this problem as things stand… Not without a great deal of effort and expenditure.

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    • Michael, I said that the US should NOT use combination judge/jury/prosecutor panels often composed of something like a caponized guy who studies the plot arc of heroes in 17th century Celtic poetry, a frustrated novelist with only one name, a Women’s Studies professor whose analyses mostly complain about the lack of positive feminine symbology and role models in James Joyce, and a professionally happy Dance Studies instructor with lots of young female students that he is said to be very close to …

      Instead, I said that the cops, who assuredly have their problems, would also assuredly do a better job than the amateurs.

      In response you point out various times that the cops have fallen down on the job … say what? Yes, THE COPS ARE NOT PERFECT!!

      But … SO WHAT??? That does NOT mean that we should leave the fate of young men and women in the hands of liberal professors of Womyn’s Studies …

      I find it astonishing that you are arguing AGAINST victims of sexual assault going to the cops. What do you suggest that they do instead? Obviously you have no clue how bad the kangaroo courts are … or perhaps you just don’t care that they are bad, you just want to stick it to the cops …

      But the fact is, you are arguing in favor of a “judicial” system that is a lethal joke, comprised of people with huge axes to grind, which is DOING IMMENSE DAMAGE.

      So I am totally uninterested in your whiny stories of bad cops. Yes, they exist … but that is no reason to hand our children over to be judged by a bunch of untrained sexually frustrated loser professors and administrators, with the kids having NO RIGHT TO CONFRONT THEIR ACCUSERS!.

      And you think that is better than our judicial system? Dude …

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  12. “I find it astonishing that you are arguing AGAINST victims of sexual assault going to the cops.”

    The problem is that many victims *won’t* go to the cops and *won’t* co-operate if the college calls them in because they *don’t* trust them. Until the effort is put in to change that your suggestion is a poor one. If the effort is put in to change that then victims will be going to the Police themselves and the problem will be much eased.

    ” Obviously you have no clue how bad the kangaroo courts are …”

    Oh I’ve looked into that before, mostly to taunt feminazi’s at the Guardian… it’s a steaming pile of crap right enough…. Currently though a victim going to an LEO usually results in no court at all…

    “you are arguing in favor of a “judicial” system that is a lethal joke, comprised of people with huge axes to grind, which is DOING IMMENSE DAMAGE.”

    No as I remember I said that quote “trying sex offences in a campus disciplinary hearing or honour courts is a fornicating stupid idea, certain to end up pleasing neither the accused, the assaulted or any of the involved interest groups” unquote Probably be worse if Mathews v. Eldridge (1976), and Goss v. Lopez (1975) weren’t in the SCOTUS precedents.

    It’s just that mandating colleges to pass victims on to the police, given the current state of things is an equally bad idea…

    I’ve put two daughters and 1 son through University or advanced degrees in the last 5 years… not theoretical for me either and from both angles.

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    • Thanks for the comments, Mike. I sorry, but I don’t understand your position. It seems that you are opposed to victims going to the cops, because at various times in history the cops have been less than helpful … but you also think that the college kangaroo courts are a “steaming pile of crap”.

      For me, that’s a simple choice. I would never suggest that anyone put themselves into the hands of some femininst college professor of Womyn’s Studies pretending to be a judge. So I told my daughter to go to the cops. But obviously, you don’t like the cops.

      Which leaves me curious … who did you tell your daughter to turn to if she gets attacked? The local vicar? The battered women’s shelter? The truth is, ANY CHOICE BUT THE POLICE PUTS OTHER WOMEN AT RISK, because nobody but the police can do things like say check the accused’s police record, or see if the complainant has a history of doing this, or compel witnesses to testify, and the like. IT’S WHY WE HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WHY WE GIVE THEM SPECIAL POWERS.

      But hey, if you think the Vice-President and some random professor in your local Junior College can dispense justice better than the professional trained justice system, be my guest … However, I’ll wager one thing.

      If you were to get attacked, you’d call the local cops and not the Faculty Lounge at the local Uni …

      Funny how that works, some people seem to be good with “alternative” justice until it’s their corpus delecti at risk …

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      • Pardon my silence, your man at the whitehouse is increasing my workload….

        to answer your points :

        I’m not opposed to the idea of going to the cops.. I just recognise that their performance has been suboptimal or less..

        You say it’s a simple choice, but it isn’t…put your fate in the hands of police, often with conflicted interests, typically with a history of poor results, or trust university admiistrators to deliver some kind of restitution, despite their own conflicted interests. I’d suggest that for most victims it’s a case of how you’d like to be screwed over….

        “who did you tell your daughter to turn to if she gets attacked”

        Should all the personal awareness, self -defence and how to kill with your bare hands training fail, they’re to call me and their mother, and their god mother who’s a top criminal solicitor (attorney) and we’ll sort out the mess from there. I would support them then whatever the decision, aware that this may in the end leave me to resolve it as a personal matter..

        “ANY CHOICE BUT THE POLICE PUTS OTHER WOMEN AT RISK”

        The actual history is of serial rapists left to continue because reports of their activity have either been no-crimed or badly investigated often with negative consequences for the victims.

        ” IT’S WHY WE HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WHY WE GIVE THEM SPECIAL POWERS.”

        Which is not being effectively applied…

        “But hey, if you think the Vice-President and some random professor in your local Junior College can dispense justice better than the professional trained justice system, be my guest ..”

        Well you have the campus authorities fumbling to provide a safe environment and LEA’s failing to discharge their duties, typically 70% of the time. Nobody’s ending up in their happy place..

        “If you were to get attacked, you’d call the local cops and not the Faculty Lounge at the local Uni …”

        On the occaisions I’ve been attacked, and it’s more often than i would like given how nice I am.. I’ve not needed to call anybody.. I’ve walked away while they’ve puked their ring up on the ground.. I’ve yet to be disappointed in my expectation that *they* aren’t calling the cops… in the last 20 years the loal plod has provided crime reference numbers to support insurance claims for a stolen bicycle and a broken window, otherwise they have been of no practical value at all.

        In the end expecting this unforunate situation to be resolved by compelling college authorities to abandon confidentiality and report victims to LEA’s will make things worse instead of better, until LEA’s are compelled to improve how they do things.

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  15. michaelozanne February 11, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    “If you were to get attacked, you’d call the local cops and not the Faculty Lounge at the local Uni …”

    On the occaisions I’ve been attacked, and it’s more often than i would like given how nice I am.. I’ve not needed to call anybody.. I’ve walked away while they’ve puked their ring up on the ground.. I’ve yet to be disappointed in my expectation that *they* aren’t calling the cops… in the last 20 years the loal plod has provided crime reference numbers to support insurance claims for a stolen bicycle and a broken window, otherwise they have been of no practical value at all.

    Great. You’re an awesome stud who unlike us poor weaklings never ever needed or could possibly need the cops at all. How nice for you.

    This makes perfect sense of your other responses. You are a manly man who doesn’t need those lousy weak “plods” … your opinion of the police tells me all I need to know. You’re way above them, they are nothing to you.

    It also has given you the perfect excuse to avoid answering the underlying question, when we all know the answer—if you are surrounded by half a dozen toughs and you have just enough time to make one phone call … will it be to the local Uni Faculty Lounge or to 911?

    And after you call the Faculty Lounge and you can’t win the fight and they leave you and the Provost bleeding on the ground, who do you want to take the case … the Police Force or the University?

    Sorry, my friend, but your claims are simply not believable, and flexing your muscles doesn’t impress. Universities are NOT courts. They do not know the law. There are none of the constitutional protections for the accused like the right to confront your accuser. There are no uniform set of rules from school to school. A very large number of them are either facing or have already lost lawsuits for horrible miscarriages of justice

    … and you are defending that? You are defending kangaroo courts where the accused does NOT have the right to confront the accuser, and you claim to be a civilized man?

    Pass …

    w.

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